Is The North, South Irish Border Significant?

If your house was a death trap due to faulty electric wiring and water leaks and naked flames and gas leaks, would it make sense to worry about the fact that your front door needs painting?

The bother about the Irish border seems to be similar to me. It is almost as thought that minor problem has been deliberately raised into an insurmountable problem deliberately by the EU and the British Gov. That would mean that there has been collusion.

Anyone with any sense can see that there is a simple solution. The UK declares that existing border arrangement will continue. It is hardly likely that hundreds of ferries and container ships will suddenly veer off to make their way to Dublin and other Irish ports to disgorge their tariff-free goods for import into the UK via Northern Ireland and Liverpool. Which would also depend upon the UK imposing any tariffs at all.

The impasse bears all the hallmarks of a concocted, artificial, bureaucratic argument about how many angels can stand on the point of a pin. Ireland is insignificant in the overall picture. The real problems in the Withdrawal Agreement are much deeper. Every MP should have read that document thoroughly, but were they given time? It is not as though the Agreement was like a smoking ban – it is the biggest thing to happen to this country for generations, and must accord with the decision of THE PEOPLE.

In effect, we left the EU the moment after the result of the vote was published. But what did we leave? We left the European Union. Thus, we abrogated the treaty which we signed which created the EU. Little attention has been paid to which treaty was abrogated. Was is Lisbon, Mastrick or what? I have no idea. Also, I can only assume that all the provisions of previous treaties were incorporated into the relevant treaty, so that the common market and customs union was included.

We trusted our MPs to KNOW these things, but they seem to have been as blind as the rest of us.

So is it surprising that there is such a mess? Junker et al have no more idea what is at stake than the rest of us, as regards the treaties. They have no more idea what they are doing than the Kaiser of Germany had when he started WW1. We are militarily strong and the French are weak. Go for it!

Only the EU has an interest in starting a trade war. I am astonished that individual states are going along with it. Surely the smaller states can see that Germany and France OWN the EU? Italy and Spain are in such a mess that they are supplicants of Germany and France. The smaller states do as they are told if they want to reap the beneficence of Germany and France in the way of grants. Is it any wonder that the EU is demanding £39,000,000,000 for nothing in return?

The bluff needs to be called. We will only pay for actual benefits in due course. And, we want repaying for our share of the ownership of the magnificent buildings. We paid for them and we want our money back. They are not buildings belonging to some Emperor or King. We want our money back.

The UK seems to have been on the defensive for three years. It is time to go onto the offensive.

But we should not lose sight of the ‘one size fits all’ attitude of our own Gov. There are not enough rebels who dare to challenge the orthodoxy. One rebel who is TRUE is stronger than an an infinite number of conformists who are UNTRUE.

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4 Responses to “Is The North, South Irish Border Significant?”

  1. elenamitchell Says:

    I have always said that there isn’t going to be a massive influx of anything into Southern Ireland. Someone would notice. And I doubt that Southern Ireland would want it anyway.
    Apart from that, I have no idea of what to do.

  2. Rose Says:

    Anyone with any sense can see that there is a simple solution. The UK declares that existing border arrangement will continue

    Which just goes to prove that our government doesn’t even think of the UK as a sovereign country anymore and acts as a supplicant.

    We who were born in a free country and never gave our sovereignty away are just beginning to see the depths of the betrayal.

    “A SECRET document, which remained locked away for 30 years, advised the British Government to COVER-UP the realities of EU membership so that by the time the public realised what was happening it would be too late.

    Almost all of the shocking predictions – from the loss of British sovereignty, to monetary union and the over-arching powers of European courts – have come true.

    But damningly for Tory Prime Minister Edward Heath, and all those who kept quiet about the findings in the early 70s, the document, known as FCO30/1048, was locked away under Official Secrets Act rules for almost five decades.

    The classified paper, dated April 1971, suggested the Government should keep the British public in the dark about what EEC membership means predicting that it would take 30 years for voters to realise what was happening by which time it would be too late to leave.”
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/882881/Brexit-EU-secret-document-truth-British-public

    And successive governments did keep us in the dark

    1975 Referendum Pamphlet
    http://www.harvard-digital.co.uk/euro/pamphlet.htm

    • junican Says:

      What strikes me is that the case for ‘Remain’ gets weaker every day. At best, what you described above and the links show that most MPs had no idea what was going on, but they dare not admit it. They have to pretend that they were ‘in favour’ or ‘against’ for various vacuous reasons.
      The habit of Gov of releasing long and messy documents only a day or two before a debate has to stop. Imagine physicists having to debate Einstein’s Relativity Theory two days after it was published, and, even worse, having to decide whether to explode millions of atom bombs in space to delay time a bit (or speed it up). Even Farage admitted that he had not had time to read the 500 plus pages of the Leave Agreement. He had to rely upon the word of people who had time to do so. And I expect that the document was full of references to this treaty or that.
      The closer we get to March 29th, the more obvious a stitch-up will become.

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