Do ASH ET AL Realise What Damage Local Authorities Like Dundee Are Doing?

If I was Arnott, CEO of ASH, I would be grinding my teeth and tearing my hair out. It seems that the top people in the Dundee health dept have decided that no employee can smoke or use an ecig during working hours, even outdoors and even when not in uniform. The councillors seem to have meekly accepted those rules. How dare those health bosses override the instructions from PHE, ASH, CRUK, etc, to go easy on ecigs? One can only assume that they, and the councillors, are suffering from some form or rabies. They must have been bitten by some sort of bug which has injected some form of poison into their bloodstreams which has driven them mad. It is the only reasonable explanation. Perhaps one or two of them attended the latest TobCON jamboree and acquired the infection there and then passed it on to their colleagues.

But we should not merely complain about ecigs. Their staff rules about smoking are just as iniquitous. It is tempting to think that the employer can make any rules that he wants, but that just is not so. For example, he cannot force employees to work for eight hours non-stop and eat and drink nothing during that time and have no breaks. He cannot dictate what they should eat or drink, with the exception of alcohol, if a ban on alcohol is justifiable.

So the question is: Is it justifiable to force smokers not to smoke outdoors just because they are employees of a local authority? Could the same authority insist that all employees have a catheter inserted into their bladders so that they do not need toilet breaks during working hours?

Have those new rules been agreed by the Union? It might well be so because the unions were infiltrated years ago. As I recall, the unions were in favour of the ban on smoking in work premises so that non-smokers were not ‘forced’ to breath poisonous tobacco fumes.

‘Human Rights’ must figure in this equation somehow. By ‘human rights’, I mean freedom to have a drink of water, freedom to rest if you are tired, freedom to eat what you like, freedom to smoke outdoors if the opportunity presents itself and no harm is done.

Could that ruling be challenged in a court of law? Frankly, it seems to be too silly to go that far. That ban is not dissimilar to the idea of employees, walking along the street between venues, not being allowed to pop into the public loo for a pee, or enter a shop to buy a bar of chocolate. “You must go from A to B by the shortest route, walking at a pace of 4 mph (neither more not less), looking neither right or left, unless crossing a road, and speaking to no one, other than a superior”. But could it be challenged?

If a group of employees were to take up that challenge, I would be the first to help fund them. But ecig companies, including Tobcoms, should bear the brunt. If the rule about ecigs fell, then the rule against tobacco should also fall. The reasoning would revolve around the question of whether not smoking or smoking, or not using an ecig or using an ecig, is part of your job. Clearly, NOT smoking would be part of the job of a petrol station attendant; on the other hand, the willingness to smoke would be part of the job of a tobacco salesman (sort of). It is hard to see how smoking or not smoking, or using an ecig or not using an ecig, can be part of the job of a council employee. Such employees are NOT walking billboards, designed to be zombies which DO NOT ‘give offence’ to bosses in the local health dept of local authorities.

As for the Dundee councillors, I fail to see any reason for their existence. And does this not go to the root of our democratic dystopia? If councillors merely rubber stamp whatever the ‘professionals’ decide, then they are the opposite of ‘democrats’ in a general sense. They are ‘serfs’.

There is no doubt in my mind that a revolution is required. I do not mean a violent uprising. I mean MPs who are elected for their personal attributes rather than pretended political party affiliations. Some personal involvement in business or industry would be a prerequisite, but not necessarily in every case. Personal involvement in Physics, Statistics, Mathematics, could be exceptions.

I must to bed.

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6 Responses to “Do ASH ET AL Realise What Damage Local Authorities Like Dundee Are Doing?”

  1. Blazeaway Says:

    I think it is actually worse in Lancashire County Council than in Dundee – and has been for about 10 years now.

    It was 10 years ago that Lancashire County Council forbade its employees from smoking in work time – including their dinner break which time belonged to the employee. Employees were also forbidden from smoking in their own cars during their working day, including in their dinner breaks.

    Even more outrageous was that county councillors were also forbidden from smoking while on council business and in their own cars. Even, presumably, while travelling to see voters on their patch who had a problem they wanted to raise.

    I hoped the unions would protest. Not one bit!

    I hoped that county councillors would object that they were the masters of the county council bureaucracy and not its servants. Not one bit! The county council was ready to counter them with the claim that, because county councillors received allowances, they were actually employees of the county council. As such, the bureaucrats said, they could be bossed around as employees.

    And all without any objection whatsoever.

    Drain the swamp!

    • junican Says:

      I suspect that the Lancs CC’s rules were generally ignored. I have seen many an employee, wearing his hi-vis apparel, puffing away on a cig between jobs. The rules are intended to instil fear, and that is all.

  2. Timothy Goodacre Says:

    These people have absolutely no right to stop people smoking in their own time off the premises whatever they are wearing. Human rights are certainly involved. Smoking is a legal pursuit. Smokers should get together and tell these tinpot dictators where to get off.

    • junican Says:

      ‘Getting together’ is the problem. The enjoyment of smoking is spread out over multiple groups who have little in common – housewives and labourers. How can they connect? That is the really big problem.

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