How to Combat Tobacco Control

I was reading comments on this ‘Spiked’ article:

“How the smoking ban killed off the local boozer”.

There is so much ‘cognisant dissonance’ in the comments that the mind boggles. MASSIVE number of commenters simply do not know what happened after smoking ban laws were introduced.

Ireland was the first, and pubs started to close in great numbers shortly afterwards. ‘Shortly afterwards’ is, obviously, going to elastic, depending upon the fortunes of individual pubs. But there is no doubt that many pub in Ireland closed ‘shortly after’ the smoking ban. And then the ban was inflicted upon Scotland. The same pattern ALMOST EXACTLY occurred. ‘Shortly after’ the ban, pubs began to close in significant, and unusual, numbers. The same happened in England and Wales in due course.

Because so many commenters did no know the facts, they ascribed the closures to anything but the smoking ban. The most popular, I think, was cheap booze in supermarkets.

But booze in supermarkets has ALWAYS BEEN cheaper than in pubs. Supermarkets do not provide a pleasant ambience to actually drink the stuff. They have none of the costs. A pub is not just a place to quaff ale – it is a place to enjoy other experiences whilst quaffing the ale. I do not mean a party scenario – I mean a relaxed atmosphere where you have no ‘duties’ to perform. Freedom from ‘duties’ is a major point about pubs. You can leave behind any number of problems and relieve yourself of the pain of those problems for an hour or two. Further, most of my best ideas have appeared when I am quaffing a pint in the pub AND SMOKING!

There is a connection between smoking, drinking ale, relaxing and having new ideas. I mean productive ideas rather than destructive ideas. You do not need to enjoy a pint and a cig in a pub to do what ASH ET AL do.

How to combat ASH ET AL?

I cannot help but feel that ‘do not engage’ is the best answer. The MSM delight in controversy because controversy sells papers. It also generates ‘click bait’ for their advertisers on social media.

If we smokers did not allow ourselves to argue the toss, but simply stated the facts, as we know them, we could avoid the “Kissing a smoker is like kissing an ashtray” meme. Such statements are ignorant – who kisses ashtrays?

How to combat TC?

The first thing that must happen is that TC must be seen as a devil rather than an angel. It IS a devil. It is killing people by loneliness.

Tobacco Control is a DEVIL! And its offshoots, salt, sugar, etc, are also devils.

Politicians must understand that, and defund those gravy-train passengers. Further, they must watch out for other gravy train operations such as the EU. There are only 27 countries in the EU. But what advantage did countries like Greece hope to gain by being in the EU?

That is what I do not understand. What did they expect to gain?

The answer to TC is to ignore them and defund them. But have politicians the courage? I think that not. They do not have the courage to silence the anti-smoking zealots.

Ignore the blandishments. Don’t smoke in a pub which says that you cannot. Smoke in a pub which says that you can. Ignore stupid laws. The fact that there are no pubs which permit smoking is irrelevant to the idea.

TC is nothing without laws. What were our politicians thinking about when they allowed TC to dictate?



4 Responses to “How to Combat Tobacco Control”

  1. beobrigitte Says:

    Because so many commenters did no know the facts, they ascribed the closures to anything but the smoking ban. The most popular, I think, was cheap booze in supermarkets.
    Indeed! I had a few times a discussion about this.
    Unfortunately, when I pointed out that I entered this country in a time when the unemployment rate in the uk was >10%

    the pubs were still packed.
    Considering that at that time there was no “cheap” supermarket alcohol and unemployment benefit was in the region of £20-£25/week with a pint costing £1 to £1.20 in a pub but only about 80p in an off-license, people spent a lot of time in pubs.
    There is plenty of international evidence for these sorts of effects, as well as the experience of what happened closer to home. As Snowdon points out, the number of pubs fell by 11pc in Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales within the first four years of their bans, even though they were imposed at different times and during different economic climates, suggesting a remarkably similar impact.

    It is hard to see what could rescue the pubs industry. Politicians and activists are obsessed with beating up the PubCos. The tax and rules that have done so much to hurt the industry can only get worse. Combined with the fact that we are falling out of love with beer as a nation, expect the pubs sector to shrink yet further over the next few years.
    Nope, no-one has been or is falling out of love with beer. It’s the missing ashtrays inside a pub that puts smokers off going to pubs. I know, I am one of them.

    • junican Says:

      Why are top-class football stadiums packed on match days when you could stop at home and watch the match on TV and not pay the £50 or whatever for a ticket? The answer is: a) The fans can afford it, and, b) They want the excitement.
      So when smoking was banned in pubs, smokers tried their best to fit in, but it was not possible. For many, smoking was a ‘sine qua non’ so they decided that staying at home with a beer and a fag was more enjoyable that going to the pub. My own experience is somewhat different because of my wife’s illness. I go to the pub for a change of scenario and a peaceful pint. Even so, I only go three times a week as compared with nine times a week before the ban.
      The clincher about the ban causing closures was the DELIBERATE staggered introduction of bans in Ireland, Scotland and England and Wales. In each case, pub closures accelerated shortly after a ban was introduced.

  2. Smoking Lamp Says:

    Yes, It is the missing ashtrays that keep smokers away. Now with the trend toward outdoor patio bans in many places (Australia, New Zealand, Canada, US) there isn’t even the option of outdoor smoking. I suspect the tobacco controllers are one and the same as the Temperance movement.

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