The Persecution of Smokers

Weird, is it not, that even smokers who move over to ecigs are being persecuted?

Persecution does not have to be physical. It can be monetary, as in massive taxes, or it can be mental, as in medical porn on cig packets. Both are persecution. Propaganda which distorts the truth by exaggeration is also persecution.

There is no excuse for such activity since we have seen similar events throughout history. On a ‘civil’ level, the harassment of Galileo is a case in point. His observations of the night sky led him inexorably to the conclusion that the planets orbit the Sun. No doubt whatsoever. It seems that the Pope at the time accepted his observations as true, but his version of reality was not ‘politically (religiously) acceptable’ at the time. So he was subjected to house arrest for the rest of his life. Perhaps that was preferable to being burnt at the stake.

But his house arrest was persecution.

It seems always to have been the case that anyone who disagrees with ‘settled science’ is persecuted in one way or another. For all I know, it may well be that TobComs were sufficiently powerful in the past to squeeze out of Government anyone who dared to raise the possibility that smoking might cause LC. We do not know. It is a possibility. Few of us have any idea how representatives of major industries can overwhelm politicians. We simply do not know. It is easy, in theory, for politicians to be against nuclear power to generate electricity, but it is far more difficult for political decisions to be made to abandon nuclear when the electricity companies say that they could not generate sufficient electricity without nuclear. France is very big on nuclear, whereas Germany has abandoned its nuclear. What does the EU have to say about that? It has nothing to say because it does not want to be involved. Or rather, France and Germany do not want the EU to become involved and forbid it.

I hate the EU and all it stands for. I hate the waste of discussions in Brussels but voting in Strasbourg. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. But that does not mean that I hate cooperation. Not at all. ‘Free trade’ was a great idea and we have all benefited. Sure there were problems like ‘wine lakes’ but those problems were easy to solve – physical supply and demand. But such physical solutions do not apply to the import of vast numbers of ‘strangers’, including some who are fanatical. True refugees should be happy to be accommodated in camps for the time being until they can return home. ‘Home’ is the important word.

There are ‘civilised’ norms. For example, we do not normally walk around town naked, no matter how warm it is. There use to be a time when a person walking around town naked would have been arrested on some vague ‘public decency’ charge. Does such a ‘charge’ continue to exist? Probably, but not applied often.

What TC has been trying to do for decades is change ‘civilised norms’ by force and persecution. And it has succeeded to some extent. Instead of nakedness in public being naughty, it has tried to make smoking in public to be naughty.

But what can we smokers do to fight against that persecution? I think that the mobilisation of smokers would be easy with enough money. Forget TobComs – they have compromised themselves. The mobilisation of smokers would have to be on-line because we are spread out all over the place. That is the beauty of the internet. We do not have to meet each other physically.

So what would smokers vote for? We have already voted for Brexit. It is odd that UKIP seems to be abandoning us in view of the fact that UKIP was the natural home of smokers under Farage. I suspect that UKIP has been hijacked, but I do not know why. The whole point of UKIP was FREEDOM (from the EU), but there is no reason that FREEDOM should not be extended to freedom from persecution.

So I’ll leave it at that for tonight.

I am tired, so excuse typos.



8 Responses to “The Persecution of Smokers”

  1. michaeljmcfadden Says:

    “Persecution does not have to be physical. It can be monetary, as in massive taxes, or it can be mental, as in medical porn on cig packets. Both are persecution. Propaganda which distorts the truth by exaggeration is also persecution.”

    VERY well stated Junican! And your question about UKIP is an important one: They have probably been under sustained letter-writing level attacks from the Antis… sockpuppet type letters and emails saying “Oh, I *love* UKIP in general and would CERTAINLY support them… if only you didn’t support killing asthmatic children with clouds of tobacco smoke in public places like kindergartens and nurseries…”

    UKIP is a political party: to survive it needs both voters and money. And if the bulk of the communications they’re getting hit with are bearing a message telling them that they’d have a lot MORE voters and money if they’d only soft-peddle the smoking thing… well, sadly, that’s what they’ll probably do.


  2. Samuel Says:

    I thought you might enjoy some of the comments on this Facebook post about banning smoking on a California “public” beach.

    • junican Says:

      I read the first page of the comments. People very quickly drift off the subject. But it is good to see a fair amount of cynicism.

  3. smokingscot Says:


    We touched on this recently. The next Head of the World Health Organisation will be Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus – an Ethiopian.

    This was the closest seen so far to an open election and Tedros won in part because 50 African countries voted for him as well as many in what we describe as “developing nations”.

    I was surprised because the list of nominees included someone from Eastern Europe who’s main claim to fame was his vehement loathing of all things smoking. He was knocked out in the first round!

    Tedros it seems has seen the WHO through the eyes of an outsider and is heartily sick fed up of their focus on lifestyle issues. With this quote:

    “I envision a world where everyone can lead healthy and productive lives, regardless of who they are or where they live,” Tedros wrote in his WHO application. “Achieving this will require a stronger and reformed WHO that belongs to all of us equally, and that is efficiently managed, adequately resourced and results-driven—with a strong focus on transparency, accountability and value for money.”

    Irrespective, I shall be highly relieved to see Margaret Chan sod-off at midnight on 30 June. And if Tedros does just a small percentage of what he states, especially the reform bit, then I shall be amazed. The thing’s rotten to its core.

    • michaeljmcfadden Says:

      Scot, you’re speaking of Nabarro? He evidently tried to shoot Tedros down by accusing him of ignoring a cholera epidemic in his own country. Tedros wasn’t shy about responding:

      “A informal advisor for rival candidate David Nabarro accused (Tedros) of covering up three cholera epidemics in his country of Ethiopia … Tedros denies the allegation and told the Times that Nabarro’s supporters have a “typical colonial mind-set aimed at winning at any cost and discrediting a candidate from a developing country.” ”

      Winning at any cost eh? Sounds like a VERY typical Antismoker: Nothing has any value EXCEPT the eradication of smokers.

      – MJM

  4. smokingscot Says:

    Sorry. Link.

  5. michaeljmcfadden Says:

    Well, how nice of TobaccoFreeCA to leave us an invitation to comment on that story! 🙂 I left three or four thoughtful comments to help them along…

  6. michaeljmcfadden Says:

    P.S. Yes Samuel… I see it actually came from YOU! LOL! :>

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