A Selfish Take on Brexit

I would hate not to be able to go to Spain and buy cigs at half price. Is that a reasonable reason for me and mine to vote to stay in the EU? You see, do you not, that, if I vote ‘Remain’, it will be for purely selfish and ‘single issue’ reasons. Frankly, I see no reason not to take that view since ‘single issues’ seem to predominate in Government attitudes.

So why should I not vote ‘Remain’ simply because I can import cigs from Spain at half price? Would that ability be denied me if I voted ‘Leave’?

But there is more. The EU limits tobacco control to some extent. Is it not quite likely that if the UK leaves the EU, then our country will become like Australia – the ultimate Bully State? What is the difference between Australia and North Korea? The only difference that I can see is that dissidents are not actually killed or imprisoned in Australia as they are in North Korea. Instead, they are ostracised, their careers are ruined and they have no legal resource to protect them. In fact, is it not true that the reason that TC can lie so much is because there is no legal resource which can challenge them? That applies in the UK and in the EU, and it applies in the WHO and the UN.

There must have been, in the past, some point where a comparatively small group of influential people got together and decided upon some broad principles, such as that European wars were caused by the existence of separate countries. It would be foolish to deny that separate ‘kingdoms’, ‘autocracies’, ’empires’, did not produce conflicts. But it was not the ordinary citizens of these ‘kingdoms’, ‘autocracies’, ’empires’ which caused the conflicts.

In a way, I can understand Cameron et al’s desire to stay in the EU, and it would also suit me, if my ability to import cigs is threatened. I could understand Cameron et al if it was true that they could reform the EU. But they cannot, because they and their predecessors set up the EU in the way that it is. The vast bureaucracy is too powerful to be reformed – no one would know how to do it. The only reasonable way to do it would be to destroy it and start again.

The problem with the EU is that it is all the wrong way round. NATO, a treaty agreed by the USA and European countries, protected most of Europe from communist aggression. The beginnings of the EU should have started from NATO. PROTECTION should have been the initial goal. A European military force could have been built to protect European nations. Subsequently, having protected the whole of Europe from aggression, property rights could have been secured. When I say ‘property rights’, I do not mean the aristocratic ownership of land. All the land belongs to THE PEOPLE as a whole. I continue to be amazed that ‘the land’ was never nationalised. That should have been the first thing to be nationalised. By ‘property rights’, I mean the right to enjoy property without state interference provided that nothing illegal was going on there. The idea of ‘public places’ as applied to ‘private property’ is a contradiction. Whatever gloss might be applied by words, the fact is that a property cannot be both public and private at the same time.


So I must make a decision. Do I risk an Australia-like bully state by voting ‘Leave’, or do I risk dictatorship by the UN, WHO, EU hegemony?

I think that I know which situation might be most easily corrected, and it is ‘the Australia-like bully state’. The reason is that we can vote for representatives who can change the hegemony. That is the important thing.

We HAVE TO leave the EU. That is the only way in which new Treaties can replace the failed ones. Staying in only reinforces the existing, faulty Treaties.


4 Responses to “A Selfish Take on Brexit”

  1. tony Says:

    I fully agree. It will be a great temptation for many smokers to vote to stay in the EU in order to ensure they can continue to buy (relatively) cheap cigarettes from there.

    My simple plea: Please don’t sell our democratic birthright (yours and mine) for a few pounds of tobacco.

    Once we have democracy properly restored we can begin the process of overturning our lost civil liberties and reducing tobacco tax to sane levels. A UK government outside the EU would find the black market taking over from legal sales anyway so there’d be plenty of incentives to reform.

    Many people view the leave/remain issue as a left vs right matter but it is not. It is about the rights and freedoms that the people of the UK have fought and died for, for hundreds of years. And as someone once said, ‘the price of freedom is eternal vigilance’.

    Here is veteran left winger Tony Benn explaining very clearly:

    He is talking about the Lisbon Treaty which was a battle lost. But everything he said is still relevant and we can still win the war by voting ‘Leave’ on 23rd June.

    • junican Says:

      I watched that video. What I cannot understand is why Cameron et al want dictatorship. Cameron has tried to get a couple of minor matters renegotiated and failed totally. Why is he not angry that he was shown, publicly, by the unelected bureaucrats to be powerless?
      I think that he is a ‘One World Government’ enthusiast. If he is, then he is a fool. The Roman Empire broke into pieces, as all Empires do. if there ever came to pass a ‘One World Government’, then it could only be maintained by massive military force against anyone who refused to comply, in which case, the OWG would be an unequivocal dictatorship.
      Why do Cameron et al so easily dismiss a thousand years of rational government in Britain, even though flawed in many ways, in favour of irrational horse-trading, lobbying, corruption, empire-building nonsense at taxpayers’ expense? It really in unbelievable.

  2. smokingscot Says:

    For what it’s worth I used to bring over back far more than my entitlement of duty free cigarettes when working in the Middle East and simply meandered through the green door.

    I got stopped once only, when my suitcase came over on an earlier aircraft, (not allowed now, but was normal then) and the customs wallah had x-rayed it. He got pretty close to the lot, however – at my request – he handed back my allowance of 200 fags.

    It’s far more likely you’ll have problems if you carry many cigarettes because they’re wrapped in a foil that shows up well in x-rays.

    Of course pouches of tobacco do show up if the operator has the patience to look, but they don’t glare at the operator (Camel excluded).

    So yes I’ve given great thought to this very point Junican – and the fact ASH will be on to it within days of our final separation.

    However on balance I’ll take my chances of being picked up once in a while. Oh and it’s a lot more fun too!

    (Bear in mind Junican that we’ll have a minimum of two years “grace” while the politico’s do their bit.

    Furthermore there’s a 60% chance that Scotland will run a second referendum to exit the Union, but remain in the EU, before 2018 – and this time I suspect they’ll win, so the Scots will still be able to carry on as before – and as there’s good money to be made – some will be sorely tempted to start a trade with those south of our border).

    And all those chaps – the professionals – who are bringing in huge volumes, well I don’t think for one second they’ll stop. The thing is customs can’t check every single lorry or van that comes over.

    Nor can they check every passenger, especially at large airports.

    As several hundred potential terrorists will attest to!

    • junican Says:

      I don’t think that airport security is interested in personal imports. It is just not worth the effort and cost involved. What is far more likely to happen is that cars using the ferries will be checked, since the cars can carry a far greater volume than can suitcases. In all the years and frequent trips that I have enjoyed, I have never been stopped once. Exiting the baggage collection lounge at Manchester airport, I have never seen customs officers hanging about. Perhaps, more importantly, there seems to be no ‘system’ in place whatsoever – you collect your baggage and exit the airport, unless you want to have a coffee or whatever before you do so.
      But, more importantly, even if we Brexit, it is unlikely that all the trade agreements will disappear overnight. What is important about Brexit is POLITICAL!

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