Despising Tobacco Control

You have to despise them. You cannot reason with them because they have a fixed agenda. Reason does not come into it. Only the statements of mantras matters. Thus, the statement that ‘there is no safe level of second hand smoke’ relies entirely upon some sort of immediate affect of a whiff of tobacco smoke in the street, regardless of the cancerous emissions of diesel engines in that street. I suppose that, rationally, it is possible for a terribly weak person to walk down a street, be inundated with diesel fumes, and not drop dead until he/she encountered a whiff of tobacco smoke. The way that TC utilises these comparisons is to say, “The person who was exposed to masses of carcinogenic fumes from traffic fell down and died only because of the additional affect of a whiff of tobacco smoke”. That is, they claim that traffic is NECESSARY, whereas smoking is not. We have seen this many times before. But such a argument ignores Choice. Diesel engines are things, and do not involve ‘choice’. No diesel engine can decide whether to emit carcinogens or not. Thus, traffic is worse than smoking, since it is uncontrollable.

How can you not be amazed that such a minor thing as smoking can infect politicians with righteous zeal? It can only be that the politicians are the wrong sort of people. In the UK, many of them retired, or were forced to retire, because of the expenses scandal. The replacements were ‘placemen’.

What is incredible is that it has taken so long for politicians to understand that there is such an emotion as ‘enthusiasm’. ‘Enthusiasm’ is an emotion. It does not need ‘Reason’. Supporters of MUFC do not need reason at all. If MUFC lose a football match, it is because the players did not ‘try’ hard enough. ‘Trying’ is emotional, and has nothing to do with skill.

Many of the people who were killed in Paris were probably only outside because of the law which grabbed private property and turned into the property of TC Zealots. TC Zealots are probably responsible for many deaths.

The scandalous affects of the Zealots’ corrupting influence on politicians cannot be ignored. But, to be honest, one cannot ignore the willingness of politicians to be corrupted.

What a mess!

 

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7 Responses to “Despising Tobacco Control”

  1. Timothy Goodacre Says:

    Yes indeed ! The lunatics are now in charge ! Weak minded people will be easily coerced. We will not !

    • Some French Bloke Says:

      Perhaps the ‘wead-minded’ would prove more reactive if they weren’t so ill-informed. Let’s keep exposing the corruption, fallacies, and what amounts to a form of intellectual terrorism, that we’ve been subjected to courtesy of tobacco control & friends.

  2. garyk30 Says:

    ” ‘there is no safe level of second hand smoke’”

    Nannies claim that smoking kills and that there is no safe level of exposure to tobacco smoke.

    6.844 billion is a LOT of cigarettes being smoked with out there being a single smoking ’caused’ death.

    Not one smoking ’caused’ death under the age of 35.
    If they could have listed any, I am certain that they would have done so.

    Smoking-Attributable Mortality, Years of Potential Life Lost, and Productivity Losses — United States, 2000–2004

    RR estimates also were stratified by age (35–64 years and >65 years). Sex- and age-specific (35–64 years and >65 years)

    Among adults aged >35 years, 160,848 (41.0%) smoking-attributable deaths were caused by cancer, 128,497 (32.7%) by cardiovascular diseases, and 103,338 (26.3%) by respiratory diseases

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5745a3.htm

    Census data shows there are about 75 million adults between the ages of 18 to 35.

    CDC says that about 20% of that age group are current smokers, that is 15 million smokers aged 18 to 35.

    There are about 937,500 current smokers per each year of age.

    If each smoker smoked a pack a day, that is 6,843,750,000 cigarettes smoked per year.
    6.844 billion is a LOT of cigarettes!!!!!!

    At that rate, by the age of 35, there will have been 109.5 billion cigarettes smoked with out there being one death listed by the CDC.

    Since you can not die from a disease unless you have that disease, it could be said that there are very little of the diseases ’caused’ by smoking occurring in that age group.

    • garyk30 Says:

      Should read:
      “109.5 billion is a LOT of cigarettes being smoked with out there being a single smoking ’caused’ death.

  3. Some French Bloke Says:

    “TC Zealots are probably responsible for many deaths.”

    Those particular deaths are the result of the combined evil actions of two deranged cults, one using the shield of scientific authority and the other the guise of religion. Nauseating.

  4. westcoast2 Says:

    Just some thoughts…

    “You have to despise them.” – By all means acknowledge this then, with a clear understanding, find ways to raise their emotion. Emotional responses cause missteps.

    “You cannot reason with them because they have a fixed agenda.” – You know what they want, now decide what you want.

    “Reason does not come into it.” – This is why attacks on the ‘science’ they use do not work, feelz rather than science This doesn’t mean you stop attacking the science, it just needs attacking in a different way.

    “Only the statements of mantras matters” – What purpose do the mantras serve? Suggestion. they serve to cement people into the group-think. Would ridiculing these mantras help break this? After all, if you believe they are ridiculous, would some humour help show this?

    “Thus, the statement that ‘there is no safe level of second hand smoke’ relies entirely upon some sort of immediate affect of a whiff of tobacco smoke in the street, regardless of the cancerous emissions of diesel engines in that street.” – It relies on social conditioning. The in crowd drive, the out crowd smoke. The mantras are the cement. Let’s ban smoking in all cars. to make it easier to police of course.

    ‘there is no safe level of second hand smoke’ – Professional Foul, red card (Toxicological transgression).
    “smoking is disgusting” – Offside, yellow card (Appeal to emotion fallacy)

    (Ideas were based on some posters that used American football to parody fallacious arguments.)

  5. junican Says:

    Good comments. What is important is that the Zealots must be ridiculed. Nothing is clear. Perhaps they should be ridiculed from the bottom up.
    Why are Tobacco Companies not supporting Mental Health patients?

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