Another Legal Case Goes Against the Zealots

H/T Harleyrider.

The Supreme Court of Korea (presumably, the South!) has ruled against an attempt by some smokers who got lung cancer and who tried to sue Big Tobacco.

Top court rules against smokers with lung cancer.
Apr 11,2014.
The Supreme Court yesterday refused appeals by 30 cancer-stricken smokers seeking damages from a tobacco company, saying “no definite causal relation exists” between smoking and each plaintiff’s individual case of lung cancer.

 

http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2987769&cloc=joongangdaily%7Chome%7Cnewslist1

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This ‘Case’ is very like the McTear Case. In that Case, the Medical Establishment tried to create a ‘test case’. Had they won, then millions upon millions of unhealthy smokers could have sued tobacco companies for billions upon billions of pounds in compensation. But the Judge was having none of it. He said that the Medical Establishment had not even tried to produce the epidemiological evidence, never mind any physical evidence that smoking causes lung cancer. In other words, the Judge in that Case saw through the bluster and ‘appeals to authority’ which were presented to him as evidence. He kicked out every claim of the Medical Establishment.

In the McTear Case, on the face of it, the Medical Establishment was fighting for the ‘little guy’. The truth, however, is that they were after the same goal as the Master Settlement in the USA. They wanted vast amounts of money from tobacco Companies in order to, a) enrich themselves, and, b) to fund their further aggression, as dictated by their bosses in the WHO.

Because the USA system of ‘justice’ is uncouth, the Medical Establishment there got the judgement which enabled them to rip off smokers for thousands of dollars each. Tobacco Company shareholders did not suffer because the costs were passed on to their customers. (That is the reason that I have no sympathy whatsoever for tobacco companies – they did not defend their customers)

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The Supreme Court yesterday refused appeals by 30 cancer-stricken smokers seeking damages from a tobacco company, saying “no definite causal relation exists” between smoking and each plaintiff’s individual case of lung cancer.

That is exactly the same a the McTear Case. But the Medical Establishment wish to enrich themselves at the expense of smokers, and so they have already instituted a different Case.

Yesterday’s ruling will be a precedent for future smoking cases, including one being brought by a state-run health insurance agency against KT&G. The National Health Insurance Service is preparing to file lawsuits against tobacco companies to seek compensation for health care expenses caused by what it calls smoking-related diseases.

Is that not a carbon copy of the Master Settlement? It may succeed, but only if South Korea has as as corrupt and uncouth a system of justice as the USA. “String the niggers up” now applies to smokers, in the USA justice and legislative system.

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There is an on-going action in Canada which is essentially the same. An old guy with lung cancer is suing a tobacco company on the same grounds. It may be that the case has been dropped, in view of the McTear Case. We are never told whether or not that is so. We shall only know when the Medical Establishment controlled press tell us.

Such trickery is not good enough for me personally. I can only speak for myself. If, at the end of the day, the Medical Establishment gets smoking banned, it will not change me one iota. Further, history has shown us, again and again, they the Medical Establishment will FAIL. It will fail because people will not obey. Those who stuff their faces with food will continue to do so. Talk of ‘calorie content’ will not deter them because they never read the labels. In fact, NOBODY ever reads these labels. They are utterly pointless.

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When Cameron says, in his Easter Message, that he is doing the work of Jesus, by initiating ‘local initiatives’ (aka banning e-cigs and scrapping smoking shelters), why is it that ALL the church leaders are not EXCOMMUNICATING him for defaming the thousands-year-old definition of the word ‘marriage’ as less than the “Framework Convention of Tobacco Control”? This tobacco control stuff is so yesterday. Marriage is forever. The essential message from Cameron is that he has said that his interventions are miraculous.

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We shall have to think about the miracles that Cameron/Milliband/Clegg intend to impose upon us at a later time. What we can be sure of is that these miracles will cost us an arm and a leg.

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6 Responses to “Another Legal Case Goes Against the Zealots”

  1. Frank J Says:

    Whoa there, Junican. Wasn’t the MSA was an out of court settlement? Hasn’t that money been exhausted, now? (don’t know the details) hence the agitation of TC.

  2. Harleyrider1978 Says:

    HHS Secretary Sebelius Resigns

    Published: Apr 10, 2014

    http://www.medpagetoday.com/PublicHealthPolicy/Washington-Watch/45209?isalert=1&uun=g506085d1093R5630843u&utm_source=breaking-news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-news&xid=NL_breakingnews_2014-04-10

  3. Harleyrider1978 Says:

    Frank the MSA is paid in perpetuity but the amounts get smalle and smaller over time. The Tobacco Control part has been dwindled down by the states and put into the general tax fund. Needless to say the NAZIS are cash strapped and bankrupt for the most part. But there still getting money………

    • Frank J Says:

      Be good to know the details, Harley – the devil is always in them – I’d read it was now exhausted.

      The main point, however, is it was an out of Court settlement.

      • beobrigitte Says:

        The main point, however, is it was an out of Court settlement.

        Indeed.

        Needless to say the NAZIS are cash strapped and bankrupt for the most part. But there still getting money………

        Yes, the tobacco control zealots are cash strapped these days – but they have the knack of getting to the rich people in this world; i.e. reality removed Bill Gates et al

        Rich people just do not know until it is too late when someone is taking them for a ride……

  4. Junican Says:

    I knew nothing about the MSA until a couple of years ago. That is odd since it was agreed in 1998. I wonder how many Americans (smokers or non-smokers) knew about it?
    When I started to investigate, knowing nothing at all, I came across a statement that tobacco companies were ‘found guilty’ of a minor infringement to do with marketing. Somehow, that ‘illegality’ was a trigger for the MSA. Perhaps, in law, in the USA, some form of ‘illegality’ is necessary to trigger the possibility, under the constitution, for such an agreement as constituted by the MSA. But I have no idea whether that is true or not. Sources do not mention it.

    What is clear is that there was indeed a deliberate ‘settlement’. The idea behind the MSA was to avoid the massively expensive litigation.
    If you read the detail of the MSA, you will find nothing which says how tobacco companies raise the money to pay the ‘fines’ of billions of dollars. Of course, we know that it was achieved by increasing the price of fags by 50 cents a pack.
    Here is a link to the detailed agreement:

    http://www.rjrt.com/MSAFullText.aspx

    It is very long, but the first few sentences are worth reading. Later on in the document, there are details of precisely what payments tobacco companies agreed to make. It is complex. As I read it personally, it seemed to me that some really big payments were quite short term – like ten years or so, while other smaller payments were ‘in perpetuity’.
    The ‘biggy’, however, is that the agreement was with States, and not tobacco control. States have gradually eliminated tobacco control from the receipt of funds. You can see the reasoning, which is impeccable: “Tobacco control zealots do not pay the ‘costs of smoking harm’ – why should they receive funds from the MSA?”

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