A Tasmanian “Expert’s” View on Ecigs.

Not a lot to talk about tonight. Once you accept that our Government is intent upon criminalising almost a quarter of the adult population simply because they put a little tobacco smoke over a duration of five minutes or so,  into the atmosphere of a car, and which is extracted by suction in an instant, when that atmosphere is already continuously saturated with diesel fumes, sucked in from outside, you realise that you are entering into a land of make-belief. It is a magical land where bullets can hit your skin and body in a continuous stream without doing any harm, but a single paintball can blast its way through your skin and devastate the organs within.

That reasonably describes the ‘science’ upon which the “No Smoking in Cars with Children Present” proposal is based. In the Lords debate, as I recall, some stats were quoted about calculated admissions to hospitals which MIGHT have been due to SHS, but I have YET TO SEE a single admission which can be attributed specifically, either directly or indirectly, to smoking in cars.

The chances of MPs not voting for the amendment are very low because of the ‘children’, even though children are not affected. In other words, the mere mention of “children” is sufficient to pass any law or action at all.

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To finish for tonight, and as a reinforcement for the above, I am going to copy here the opinion of a Director of Public Health, Dr Roscoe Taylor, in Tasmania, Australia:

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/2070320/authorities-warn-on-dangers-of-e-cigarettes/?cs=87

E-CIGARETTES might seem like a healthy way to quit smoking but they can be dangerous, and even fatal.

National and Tasmanian health authorities are concerned about the use of e-cigarettes in Australia, due to the lack of evidence on their safety and efficacy.

Director of Public Health, Dr Roscoe Taylor, said recent tests of products available in Tasmania had revealed some samples of the liquid, also known as e-juice and e-liquid, had enough nicotine to cause serious illness, or even death if swallowed.

“Parents using e-cigarettes should be very careful as small children may find the liquids enticing as some have fruit- flavoured or sweet additives,” Dr Taylor said.

“Children in other parts of Australia have come to harm ingesting the liquid and at least one death has already been reported overseas.”

Cancer Council Tasmania director of cancer control Dr Kathyrn Terry, said it was illegal to sell e-cigarettes with nicotine in Australia.

“E-cigarettes and their cartridges can be sold in Tasmania provided the cartridges do not contain nicotine,” Dr Terry said.

“If it contains nicotine, it is a breach of the Tasmanian Poisons Act 1971 and penalties apply.”

Nicotine is classed as a schedule 7 poison because of its capacity to cause harm to human health.

Where nicotine for use in an e-cigarette is for therapeutic purposes it is a prescription only medicine.

A spokeswoman for the Federal Department of Health said e-cigarettes had not been evaluated by the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) as safe or effective.

“The manufacturers of e-cigarettes have not yet provided evidence that their products are a safe and efficacious form of smoking cession therapy,” she said.

“Nor have they provided any evidence to authorities of the overall safety, quality or efficacy of these products.”

Dr Terry said there had been a dramatic rise in the marketing, availability and use of e-cigarettes in Tasmania.

“Low levels of carcinogens have been found in e-cigarettes. but at a much reduced rate to cigarettes,” she said.

“We also know that nicotine is not a benign substance in itself and is potentially cancer causing.”

Dr Taylor said some retailers might not have realised some of these products contained nicotine and Population Health Services had written to all tobacco retailers and others selling e-cigarettes to remind them of the laws.” 

I hardly need to point out the jaw-dropping inaccuracies and examples of ‘new-speak’ mis-statements in the above. But, worst of all, is the ‘verbotten’ on nicotine containing juices.

Have the authorities in Australia banned potatoes and tomatoes yet?

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6 Responses to “A Tasmanian “Expert’s” View on Ecigs.”

  1. E Cigarette News Australia - 9th january 2014 - Green Smoke Australia Says:

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  2. beobrigitte Says:

    I hardly need to point out the jaw-dropping inaccuracies and examples of ‘new-speak’ mis-statements in the above. But, worst of all, is the ‘verbotten’ on nicotine containing juices.

    Have the authorities in Australia banned potatoes and tomatoes yet?

    Junican, don’t give them ideas……

    I have observed something rather odd in Austria – E-cig cartridges containing nicotine can only be bought in pharmacies whereas nicotine-free cartridges can be obtained at any tobacco shop.
    Strange.
    Perhaps this was a trade-off deal with the tentacles of tobacco control – shove the e-cigs into the chemists and you can have another few month free from the draconian smoking ban?

    Nevertheless, since I did invest in E-Lite e-cigs I shall continue to use them. Quite often I light a cigarette and put it into the ashtray to do something, e.g. typing a letter. It is such a waste of valuable tobacco.
    Much to my surprise I find that e-cigs are a viable alternative to smoking cigarettes and E-Lites actually sell NON-NICOTINE containing cartridges which I have ordered. (Yeah, I read that these are made in China but that does not mean it has to be “bad”)

    My little e-cig experiment also addressed something I somehow had accepted – Nicotine “dependence”.
    Much to my surprise I favoured a copious amounts of “smoke” producing nicotine-free e-cigarette.
    As a smoker for nearly 45 years I was very content with non-nicotine containing e-cigarette cartridges, raising this question about “nicotine dependence”.
    Do I feel the urge to devour tomatoes or potatoes prior to going to bed? Most certainly NOT!!!
    Why don’t I wake up in the night with this overwhelming urge to smoke a cigarette?
    Actually, why do I go to bed and read for a couple of hours NOT missing this “nicotine hit”?

    In my case it would appear that watching “smoke” is something “calming” maybe to the point of comforting? Is THAT the reason why tobacco control is unleashing it’s hatred?

    In the meantime, the most grotesque side effect of the smoking ban is that tobacco control has achieved that vapers, too, are exiled to the outdoors.

    • junican Says:

      I could see my way to vaping provided that I was not hassled. But I would not accept at all the negation of nicotine as has happened in Australia. Ecigs are pointless, in the first instance, without nicotine.
      But it is up to the Australian people to rebel.
      But who gives a shit?

      • beobrigitte Says:

        Junican, like you, I shake my head at OUR politician’s stupidity (funnily enough, neither Cameron’s, nor Miliband’s vote is shown).

        If in Australia there are only non-nicotine containing cartridges for e-cigs on the market, the population might wake up to the difference between HABIT and ADDICTION.

        I hope they do. And I do hope the vapers do as well!

        Lets face it, neither of us HAS TO GO to Australia. I spent an awful lot of my savings in Austria’s (a country that caters for smokers!!!) shops a couple of weeks ago.

      • junican Says:

        I read that all three leaders were absent.
        Regarding the no-nic juices, I should imagine that nic juices are very easy to smuggle.

  3. A Tasmanian "Expert's" View on Ecigs ... Says:

    […] Not a lot to talk about tonight. Once you accept that our Government is intent upon criminalising almost a quarter of the adult population simply because they put a little tobacco smoke over a duration of five minutes or so, into the atmosphere of a car, and which is extracted by suction in an instant, when that atmosphere is already continuously saturated with diesel fumes, sucked in from outside, you realise that you are entering into a land of make-belief. It is a magical land where bullets can hit your skin and body in a continuous stream without doing any harm, but a single paintball can blast its way through your skin and devastate the organs within.  […]

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