Some months ago, I did a pretty thorough investigation of what scrutiny the Convention on Tobacco Control received in Parliament. The fact is that there was none to speak of. All the discussions took place in various committees of the EU. The then Government of the UK signed the Treaty in June 2003 with barely any discussion at all, and then ratified the Treaty in December 2004, again with hardly a word said. The UK signed the Treaty in accordance with a timetable created by the EU. The only way that MPs found out anything about the discussions in the EU was by asking questions of the various ministers involved. Even then, MPs were brushed off. Eventually, a junior health minister, Milton MP (subsequently sacked) said in the House that the UK was “legally bound” to enact laws to comply with the requirements of the Treaty.
I have finally got round to creating a separate page containing my investigation which is in the sidebar.
So now we see the reason that the Government is determined to enact the most ridiculous laws about display bans and plain packaging and such – it is because it signed and ratified that damned Treaty, without any explicit authorisation by The People. No wonder that the country is in a mess. But what the Government does not seem to understand is that it is not committed in perpetuity because it ratified a Treaty. In fact, it is not committed to anything unless it wishes to be committed. Nothing would happen if it simply did not bother with display bans and plain packaging. Well, apart from the fact that the World Bank is under the control of Zealots. The Zealots really did a wonderful job of taking over the UN, didn’t they? How on earth did they manage it? Personally, I think that it was a matter of sheer carelessness. Delegates to the UN listened to the worthy aspirations of the Millennium Goals to eliminate poverty and disease from the World, and thought, “Wow! Great!” Little did they realise that they were voting into existence an element of world domination by Eugenicists.
It has now happened again with this Gay Marriage thing. It seems that the UK committed to an EU suggestion that any couple of either sex or any sex can ‘get married’. Heaven only knows how that came about. Someone must have told Cameron that he had to pass a law allowing gay marriage by June 2013. Civil Servants must have told him THAT HE MUST DO IT. What option does he have other than to pretend to be enthusiastic? Of course, it never occurs to him to say, “Erm…. too busy at the moment. I’ll let you know when I have time. The treaty? That can wait too”
There is a lot more about this at Frank Davis’s place:
http://cfrankdavis.wordpress.com/
It was there that I found out about the EU involvement in this gay marriage thing.
What a mess.
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But I must make a big effort to get these lung cancer stats sorted. Funny, isn’t it, how Doll’s Doctors Study has become the Holy Bible of Tobacco Control?
07/02/2013 at 17:35
When you are doing the lung cancer stats, I hope you have noticed my info that, in America, 70% of the ex-smoker lung cancer deaths happen to ex-smokers that have the same risk for lung cancer as never-smokers.
That 70% account for about 50% of the lung cancer deaths attributed to smoking and about 42% of the total lung cancer deaths
It is very stupid to blame a lung caner on smoking when the person has the same probability of lung cancer as a never-smoker..
07/02/2013 at 17:38
The term ‘Risk of’ sounds scarier; but, it means the same thing as ‘Probability of’, as you know.
08/02/2013 at 02:56
Gary.
I have now published my little ‘study’. I have neither the resources nor the time to enquire at a depth greater than seen. What I have tried to achieve is a recognition that, by now, after some sixty years of diminishing smoking, results in the form of LC deaths, as a percentage of all deaths, should be falling away – IF smoking causes LC. We must remember that this is not just an academic exercise. Doll said that LC is caused by smoking. Since very few people now smoke, why are there still so many LC deaths?
It is only in retrospect, given today’s evidence that LC is still causing the deaths of much the same proportion of deaths, even though smoking prevalence had diminished so much, as was the case in 1980, that we can see that Doll was wrong. Many more factors were involved.
07/02/2013 at 20:42
Tis too boring a story to explain how I came by your site … but, are you real, or someone pretending to be an angry, ignorant buffon? Cigarettes don’t kill, and the world is flat. Now you are dragging gay marriage in – how come that doesn’t surprise me. You know the reason why most people don’t like smoking – forget the health issues etc – it’s because you stink – literally – you stink. You smell of cigarettes – your hair, clothes, breath, mouth (ugh). It repulses.
08/02/2013 at 00:19
How lovely of you to drop by, Mary! I particularly like your use of the word ‘Tis’. You don’t often see it these days. But I’m sure that it should have an apostrophe before the ‘T’ – like this: ‘Tis.
I’m a bit busy at the moment. I’ll be back later……..
08/02/2013 at 08:21
If it’s that bad for you, I suggest a visit to the Doctor. You may have a nasal problem amongst the obvious others.
09/02/2013 at 22:14
Gianluigi “Gigi” Buffon, Ufficiale OMRI is a FIFA World Cup-winning Italian goalkeeper who is currently the Captain for both Serie A club Juventus and the Italian …
Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon was a French naturalist, mathematician, cosmologist, and encyclopedic author. His works influenced the next two …
That was basically all I could find on “Buffon”. So, Junican, it would seem that “Mary” is likening you either to a footballer or a naturalist, but I’m not sure which. Perhaps “Mary” would like to come by and enlighten us? Either way, if it’s the fotballer, then you should be deeply offended, and if it’s the naturalist, well whether you are offended or not depends on your point of view.
10/02/2013 at 15:16
Mary sounds awfully angry, doesn’t she? I wonder why? I can’t make my mind up whether it is the gay matter or the tobacco matter.
There doesn’t seem to be any indication that either of the Buffons you mention were angry or ignorant.
08/02/2013 at 03:25
Hello, Mary. I’m back.
It would be lovely if you would tell me the tale about how you came across this blog. I am really, really interested.
For heaven’s sake! I trust that you are not Tricky Dicky Doubleday!
It is true – I cannot tell a lie. I am a disgusting, filthy, stinking smoker. I like that. It relieves me of the need to wash. It is wonderful! I used to like swimming, but not any more. Water is disgusting. It is full of carcinogens.
Now then, Mary. Tell me in what ways you are disgusting, filthy, stinking. Or are you pristine clean?
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Some of my best friends are homosexual. The trouble is that I do not know who they are. In the interests of ‘equality’, should they not bear a sign? If they wish to be ‘recognised’ as ‘equal’, should they not make themselves recognisable?
But I do not give a toss, since I am a disgusting, filthy, stinking smoker.
You decided…………….
10/02/2013 at 00:54
It was there that I found out about the EU involvement in this gay marriage thing.
So did I!!! And I did learn that people’s objections (I don’t have any, but others do!) were simply brushed under the carpet.
THIS does sound awfully familiar! Aren’t also the gay people misled by this government by stating “majority-pro-vote”?
10/02/2013 at 01:19
To:
Tis too boring a story to explain how I came by your site … but, are you real, or someone pretending to be an angry, ignorant buffon? Cigarettes don’t kill, and the world is flat. Now you are dragging gay marriage in – how come that doesn’t surprise me. You know the reason why most people don’t like smoking – forget the health issues etc – it’s because you stink – literally – you stink. You smell of cigarettes – your hair, clothes, breath, mouth (ugh). It repulses.
I am not interested who this “Mary” is – the propaganda gives it away, anyway.
There is some truth in this comment:
Cigarettes don’t kill
and it is the anti-smoker zealots who know this very well!
Well, “Mary”, I am a very proud and confident SMOKER; if you don’t like me, you have the choice to stay away. So why are you here? Don’t you know you will have to put your computer into the (grey) wheelie-bin and get a new one? There is fourth-hand
smoke deaths; worse even than second/third hand smoke deaths!
In a real democratic country there will be a pub for everyone; Anti-smoking zealots can visit a pub of their choice. Make use of it. You lot are telling us that the country “loves” smoke-free pubs – WHY then a costly smoking ban? According to this in the near future I am sure I will have to look hard to find a pub catering for my preferences. But it is be the proprietor’s choice. Nothing wrong with that, is it?
Here the most entertaining part:
your hair, clothes, breath, mouth (ugh). It repulses.
Do you know what a bathroom is? Visit is daily!!! And do keep away from my mouth – I will have you arrested if you come anywhere near it against my will!!!
10/02/2013 at 15:38
Doctors Study.
34,000 male doctors.
80% approx. (27,000) smokers or ex-smokers.
Deaths over the 50 year period = 25,000.
Total lung cancer deaths (both smoker and non-smoker = 1052.
1000 = 4% of smokers.
96% of smokers and former smokes DID NOT die from lung cancer.
Therefore it is NOT reasonable to say that smoking, in itself, causes lung cancer.
Why did 4% of smokers get lung cancer? Because there must have been something wrong with them.