The Scottish Heart Miracle is followed by the English Asthma Miracle

Another miracle resulting from the smoking ban has appeared. This time, it concerns asthma in children. The BBC has reported on research which shows, apparently, that severe asthma attacks fell by about 12% immediately consequent upon the introduction of the smoking ban in enclosed public places in England. That this was indeed a miracle is evidenced by the obvious fact that if people cannot smoke in enclosed places (especially in inclement weather) other than their homes, they will smoke in their homes. Do children congregate in pubs, clubs, bingo halls, restaurants, etc? No. Where do children congregate? In their homes.

If we define a miracle as ‘some wonderful event which has occurred which cannot be explained other than by an act of the Deity’, then we must conclude that God is working with Tobacco Control. “SEE YE! HOW DOTH OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN JUSTIFY OUR GOOD WORKS! HOW DOTH HE PERFORM WONDEROUS THINGS FOR REFORMED SINNERS!”

And so it has come to pass that children with asthma have been miraculously cured of tobacco smoke intolerance. It must be so.

The alternative proposal by the Zealots is that parents MAY have declared their homes to be smokefree premises as a direct result of being banned from smoking in pubs etc. That is what the Zealots claim:

“We increasingly think it’s because people are adopting smoke-free homes when these smoke-free laws are introduced and this is because they see the benefits of smoke-free laws in public places such as restaurants and they increasingly want to adopt them in their home.”

That is a quote from the lead researcher, Prof Christopher Millett. Let us reproduce that statement again, and highlight some bits of it:

We increasingly think it’s because people are adopting smoke-free homes when these smoke-free laws are introduced and this is because they see the benefits of smoke-free laws in public places such as restaurants and they increasingly want to adopt them in their home.”

So the esteemed (quack) Professor and (quack) Doctor and his mates THINK that …….. So smokers, according to these people, having been ostracised, WELCOME being ostracised and think that it is so wonderful that they will immediately ostracise themselves from their own homes!

So the miracle is NOT that asthma attacks from tobacco smoke intolerance has diminished, it is that smokers HAVE BEEN CONVERTED! “”PRAISE THE LORD!”"

But wait a minute. If that were true (that smokers have declared their homes to be smokefree), then, surely, they would have quit smoking? What sort of sinner only gives up his sinful ways indoors, but continues with his sinful ways outdoors? Eh?

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The reality is that statistics upon which this miracle is based have been cherry-picked. The interesting thing about this cherry-picking is that it is perfectly legitimate. For example, we have just had a certain weather pattern. We had a couple of days of clear skies and very frosty weather immediately followed by a couple of days of snow. It is therefore perfectly legitimate for me to say that, on this occasion, the frosty weather CAUSED the downfalls of snow. In the sense that would be rain clouds hit the frosty atmosphere hereabouts and what would normally be rain fell as snow, the causation assumption is correct, except that it was not the frosty weather that caused the snow, it was the influx of rain clouds. What the esteemed (quack) Doctor did was compare the ACTUAL figures for severe asthma incidents with his own projected model of what should have happened. Look at this figure:

asthma-0-14-england

[I think that you can click to enlarge]

The chart is for asthma consultations in children up to 14. What do you immediately see? You see ‘medium, high, low, low, high, medium, higher, low, high, high, high, low’. That pattern only relates to chance variations year on year. No conclusion of trends can reasonably be drawn from such a chart.

But, somehow or other, the learned Prof (quack) and Doctor (quack) has managed to torture a short-term situation immediately after the ban into confessing to a ‘statistically relevant’ deduction.

But, surely, the esteemed Prof (quack) and Doctor (quack) is unimpeachable? Let us just take a glance at this esteemed academic:

“I moved to the UK from Australia in 1994 after obtaining a social science degree from the University of Sydney.”

He is clearly an eminent mathematician and statistician, then, and qualified in epidemiology and medicine. But none of that matters since it is ’who you know, and not what you know’ – like Andrew Black, an Australian, who is big in Tobacco Control in the DoH, and Simon Chapman, another sociologist from Australia. Note also that a prime mover in this current hogwash is Stan Glantz (or Grantz, or whatever his name is) from America.

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We know that there is no doubt that there is an international conspiracy in action. I would not be surprised at all if this latest abomination is intended to be in support of the Irish smoking ban in cars – “Growing body of good evidence”, the likes of Arnott say.

The above is just a summary. ‘Velvet Glove, Iron Fist’ (see sidebar)’ has a much more accurate description.

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15 Responses to “The Scottish Heart Miracle is followed by the English Asthma Miracle”

  1. harleyrider1978 Says:

    - – – - – -2007
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    If the graph showed the above,they woulda been screaming 4 years ago. Instead as Chris Pointed out this is what was said

    ” Magical manipulation of Data ehh!”

    26 June 2011 Last updated at 19:35 ET.

    Scottish health boards ‘complacent’ over asthma care.
    Shocking reading’

    However, Asthma UK said the number of emergency admissions had remained unchanged for a decade – suggesting the asthma of many young people was still being badly managed.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-13919959

    This junk study should be the final nail in TC’S COFFIN!

  2. harleyrider1978 Says:

    Oh well my graph didnt go right as I had it made. It should show a year on year downward trend but in larger percentages to even show any casual effect. It doesnt its basically a complete carbon copy for the years previous to 2007-8 tot those past it! Or did somebody in the records dept mess with the 2007-8 data……..makes one wonder.

    • Junican Says:

      Graphs are very tricky to draw in comments, cousin!
      Will this work?

      ……………………X……..
      ……………….X………….
      ……………X……………..

      Let’s see.

      Yes, it could be done that that way.

  3. garyk30 Says:

    A 12% reduction is not enough to assume cause and effect.

    A 12% reduction would be an RR of 0.88, which is much greater than 0.5!!!
    http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/RR.htm

    For these reasons most scientists (which includes scientifically inclined epidemiologists) take a fairly rigorous view of RR values. In observational studies, they will not normally accept an RR of less than 3 as significant and never an RR of less than 2.

    Likewise, for a putative beneficial effect, they never accept an RR of greater than 0.5

    • Junican Says:

      For readers, may I interpret?

      Suppose smokers suffer some disease twice as much as non-smokers. So let’s say that for every 50 non-smokers who suffer, there are 100 smokers who suffer. So smokers suffer twice as badly as non-smokers. That is a Relative Risk (for smokers) of 2 – twice the rate.
      Now let us suppose that it is the other way round – suppose that smoking has a beneficial effect.
      Suppose that for every 100 smokers who suffer, 200 non-smokers suffer. In that case, the RR is half as great for smokers as compared to non-smokers. Half is 0.5.
      So, in this case, that figure of 0,88 is far too big for a beneficial effect to be considered. It is no where near ‘a half’ (0.5).

  4. dognamedblue Says:

    this should make you chuckle

    Cigarettes have over 500 toxic/addictive additives. Natural tobacco leaf fights Cancer:
    “Top US academics discover fresh tobacco leaves can fight cancer”
    http://www.sott.net/article/231909-Top-US-academics-discover-fresh-tobacco-leaves-can-fight-cancer

    • Junican Says:

      Note that they simply HAD TO put in words to the effect that ‘this does not mean that it is ok to smoke pure leaf’.

    • Rose Says:

      Just out of interest, Wynder seems to have found an anti-cancer agent too, eventually.

      Medicine: Doctors at Work
      Friday, Apr. 21, 1961

      “Dr. Ernest L. Wynder of Manhattan’s Sloan-Kettering Institute has discovered that a nonflammable part of a waxlike chemical in tobacco smoke acts to inhibit substances that can cause cancer.

      The anticancer agent (Wynder once thought that the entire substance caused cancer) is also present in auto fumes, where it seems to block cancer-causing substances more effectively—despite the fact that auto exhausts contain 60 times more of the cancer-causing agents.

      Wynder warned that the presence of the waxlike chemical in tobacco tar does not prevent lung cancer, hopes that eventually enough of the chemical can be added to cigarettes to eliminate the need for filters.”
      http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,895307,00.html

      Previously

      Medicine: Making Cigarettes Safe?
      1957

      “Dr. Wynder told the American Association for Cancer Research, meeting in Chicago, that the villain is not present in tobacco leaves in their natural, unburned state.

      His research team proved this by extracting tar from cigarette tobacco without burning it: the resulting substance produced virtually no cancers when painted on the backs of mice.

      But batches of the same tobacco were burned at varying temperatures, and the tars extracted. Tar from the lower-temperature-burning ranges (560° to 720° C.) produced few or no cancers. From 800° to 880° C. the number of cancers increased.

      Conclusion: evidently, the cancer-causing agent is the result of high-temperature combustion.”

      “Tentative Conclusion. Could the original substance from which the cancer agent is formed be pinned down and removed from the tobacco? Wynder & Co. closed in on a natural waxy substance that is known to coat the tobacco leaf. In the wax are “aliphatic hydrocarbons.” which, burned at high temperatures, produce “polycyclic hydrocarbons,” and these in turn can cause cancer.

      Working with the University of Toronto’s Chemist George Wright, the researchers washed tobacco in hot hexane, which dissolves the wax. They extracted the wax and burned it alone.

      The resulting tar proved to be at least ten times as cancer-potent as ordinary tar from whole tobacco: in five months all mice painted with a 5% solution from tests at 880° had papillomas (precursors of cancer), and 27% had full-blown cancer.

      The tar from the wax contained all the cancer agents now known to exist in small amounts in cigarette tar, but Dr. Wynder doubts that these substances are the only cause of the lung-cancer increase, suspects there are others in the tar.”
      http: //www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,824810,00.html

      “The anticancer agent (Wynder once thought that the entire substance caused cancer)”

      Not a good start, but what wynder doesn’t seem to have known but my Mother’s gardening books did, is that the same things that are in tobacco are in the other nightshade vegetables just in smaller amounts.

      But whether that was cembranoids or solanesol, I couldn’t find out.

      • Rose Says:

        What could have made Wynder think that the entire leaf was carcinogenic?

        Simulating smoking the old fashioned way.

        Method
        “The still was filled with a.5 kg. of dry tobacco: the asbestos gasket, soaked in water-glass (liquid sodium silicate), put in place; and the lid fastened tightly so as to prevent the escape of fumes. The still was then slowly heated to 700° C. Six to 8 hours were required for a distillation.”

        “At higher temperatures the destructive distillates of petroleum, human skin, and yeast cholesterol, turpentine, rice polishings and crude sugar, all were shown to be carcinogenic.”
        http://tobaccodocuments.org/ness/1224.html?zoom=750&ocr_position=above_foramatted&start_page=1

        Convincing?

    • Junican Says:

      Convincing?

      Absolutely not. The reason is ‘the delayed effect’, which is an artificial construct. It does not matter about fumes and temperatures if nothing happens for thirty years.
      What the gentleman says may be true, but who cares? The Medical Profession certainly do not.

      • Junican Says:

        Sorry, Rose, my above comment sounds critical. I do not mean it to be so. Painting the skin of mice with some concentrated poison hardly constitutes proof of anything at all.

      • Rose Says:

        Precisely.

        It is the most appalling nonsense, but because they believed from the start that tobacco caused cancer they tried to find out HOW it did rather than IF it did.

        No one managed to replicate the experiment though quite a few tried, but tobacco prohibitionists carried on believing it regardless.

        Of course the person who started all this was James 1st, head of the Church of England trying to persuade us not to pursue a heathen practice, though the reason being long forgotten, if you look at this as continuing religious belief trying to find proof of it’s truth, rather than it ever having been unbiased scientific enquiry it explains a lot.

      • Junican Says:

        Yes – James 1st – but not for ‘the better sort’, if you recall.

  5. Rose Says:

    Have you read Hueper, Junican?
    I suggest you do, he was opposed to Doll and the cigarette theorists, he explains how the trick was done..

    Deposition of Wilhelm C. Hueper – National Cancer Institute

    “That means that the experimental findings once reported by Dr Wynder and previously reported by Dr Roffo in which they reported that a very high percentage of their mice developed cancer of the skin when they were treated with tobacco tar, was not confirmed by any other investigator.

    In fact some of the investigators could not produce any cancer of the skin in mice with tobacco tars.
    That observation indicates that tobacco tars of various derivation differ obviously a great deal in their carcinogenic potency to the skin of mice.

    What the situation is in regard to men I don’t think anyone can even venture a guess.

    All experiments which have been done with tobacco tar produced artificially are based on artefacts.

    That is based on materials or obtained with materials which may or may not be identical chemically with tobacco smoke that enters the human mouth, and we know that the chemical constitution and particularly the content of any carcinogenic material in the combustion production of carbonaceous materials, and that applies also to tobacco, can be fundamentally influenced by the conditions under which that tar is produced.
    That is the heat and the oxygen supply mostly.”
    http://tobaccodocuments.org/rjr/503243231-3367.html?zoom=750&ocr_position=above_foramatted&start_page=31

    In other words, destructive distillation as described in the previous link.

    • Rose Says:

      He also gives us the lowdown on Doll’s calculations.

      “They manipulated the evidence. Anyone who introduces a corrective factor in his calculations to make the evidence fit a preconceived idea, I do not feel that this is valid scientific evidence.

      Q“Do you feel, in view of what you said, that the application of a corrective factor means a predetermined manipulation in this case?

      A.In this case I could not say, no.

      Q I want to get clear on that.You asked me to read on. I will do that. This appears on Page 435 of your May, 1957 article and reads;

      “However, even this estimate is heavily biased by the arbitrary assumption that the benzpyrene content present allegedly in cigarette smoke was about 12 times as effective in eliciting cancers as benzpyrene demonstrated in atmospheric air.

      Only when such a “corrective” coefficient is applied was it possible to obtain proportional correlations between the total exposure to benzpyrene from both cigarette smoking and air pollutants and the relative incidence rates of lung cancer found in the industrialized metropolitan Liverpool area, an intermediary urban-rural region, and the rural area of North Wales”

      A That is right.

      Q That was your statement.

      A I would like to have that on the record too.

      Q All right. It is in Doctor”
      http://tobaccodocuments.org/rjr/503243231-3367.html?zoom=750&ocr_position=above_foramatted&start_page=91

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